steve and i were there. when you have 1% growth it feels 1% economic growth it feels like a zero sum game. when you have 5% growth it's boundless opportunity. and that's what we got to get back to this message of what can we do to give opportunity to american families, to american young people, to americans in general. and cut, cap and balance was part of it. getting back to the kind of policies to promote economic growth. and that optimism and that specialness that reagan talked about that is i think where we need to be as a party, where we need to be as conservatives. >> the -- if you have a particular disappointment over the past couple years besides the november plerks, what would it be? -- election, what would it be? >> the fact that we didn't pass that. let's be honest, the decisions that were made in the summer of 2011 put us in the mess we're in today. if we could have held strong and got something -- an actual solution, something that would help solve our fiscal problem and promote economic growth w